Monday, January 09, 2006

This and that

Pretty uneventful weekend.....Matt only had Saturday off. It was nice to wake up and have him still be home though.

Saturday we went and hung out at my mom's house. It's so nice to be able to do that. The kids love being there and it's great just having "grown up" talk with the folks. Here are some pics from that.....









Emma being silly






Molli and Noah playing house :)







So I got into a debate with a friend of mine about something this weekend. Tell me what you think. She casually mentioned something about her and her husband watching pornography together. They are both believers. Something about that strikes me as just not right and I told her that. So we went back and forth for a bit about it. What do y'all think??? Is it ok for believing spouses to watch pornography together?

13 comments:

eyes_only4him said...

your pics are cute..

and I find pornogrhapy appauling. and I think its wrong no matter what..plus it makes me wanna puke in my mouth, just grosses me out..

I know poeple have addticions to it, and I have heard it is worse than crack to try and stop..

but I personally find it sickening..but thats just me;)

Mandi said...

Christina - I tend to agree....why put such images in your head???

Mandi said...

Joce - That was my stance as well, she disagreed....

Misty said...

my sister and i just had this discussion as her aunt gave her and her husband candles, a restaurant gift certificate, a bottle of wine and a porn film for a Christmas gift. i was stunned.
our minds and where they can take us is such a dangerous path and when you start placing images of others sexually, into the mind... it just seems like it will breed dis-dontentment, resentment, lust, and maybe even anger... i don't see anything good coming from it... plus i totally agree with what has already been said.

Misty said...

i meant dis-contentment... (sorry)

Mandi said...

Misty, seems most of us are on the same page...not sure where she forms her logic....

Amy M. said...

totally agree with you all...I have no idea where this person could pull from Biblically that says, "and husbands and wives, watch other people have sex and enjoy it." Not in my Bible...

Mandi said...

Amy- Mine either...just making sure that my opinion was off base

Melis said...

I, personally, can't stand it! I don't find the human body appauling, and I do think that there is some really nice ART done. But I also don't see that in ever instance, in every relationship, that it would be damaging.. everyone/couple is different. Still not for me. As far as it within your religion.. I'm not quite sure where I stand there, as I believe that God MEANT for us to live our daily lives within even so much as clothes... or living in houses... So how would it have been if things would have been as He originally intended?? Just my thoughts...

Melis said...

Oops! Should have read "...our daily live withOUT even so much as clothes..." not within. Sorry!

Mandi said...

Melis - I agree, however, i for one am extremely glad that we all wear clothes :)

Angie - I don't really know the details of her marriage however I think you are right. I can't imagine a woman just volunteering to watch it. I think it's vile. I also think it's a widespread epidemic, and there are a lot of Christian men getting caught in the trap. It's just too easy, there's access virtually everywhere. Something about the topic just struck me as wrong. Just kind of wanted to feel about what you guys thought about it....

Felecia said...

When I think of intimacy between a man and a woman, I think of my husband and I. We're the stars in that mental image - not a couple of "actors". That's the way I like it. I have a feeling that if those videos started making their way into our bedroom, that could change and I really don't want it to. Not for me and certainly not for Andy. Call it insecurity if you must, but when my husband is excited to be with me, I prefer to think it's because of what I have to offer and not some mental image of a lusty blonde in a dirty nurse costume stoking his flame.

Now that I've offered my personal view on it I can safely say that I would have NO IDEA how to debate it with a gal pal in a casual conversation. Just as I wouldn't know how to discuss the positions they should or shouldn't be engaging in, I would have a hard time discussing how they should or shouldn't arouse each other.

Good luck to you should this debate continue with her!

kelli said...

I guess the way I look at it, it's like bringing another person into the bedroom with you. If a couple is watching it together, what will prevent them from watching it alone when they can't be with their spouse. And where does one go from there once the videos are tiresome? A threesome? What is really the difference? Obviously I am being extreme, but I do wonder where a person would draw the line?

BTW... I know plenty of women who don't mind porn. Don't assume, just because it's typically a visual man thing, that this friend doesn't like it. Many women are aroused by it too.

I hate to admit it, but I can see the draw to it. I don't know that I would be as repulsed by it if I didn't have such strong convictions about it. I do believe that it is degrading to women...and men for that matter. Also, the addiction to it as I have seen first hand, is really difficult to overcome.
If you think about it, we all "fantasize" about something, for some people, sex is their fantasy, what better way to fulfill the fantasy than this?

I think we should not judge, but pray for those that produce, act in and watch pornography. That they would find fulfillment in a way that doesn't expose them to such lies and deceit because that is really what pornography does. It lies to those that watch it. It tells people that if a couple watch it, they will have that kind of sex. It tells women that they can be as great a lover as the women on the video and it tricks men into feeling love and attraction. But when the TV goes off, it's still just that...a TV!